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Post by Grateful Ed on Jun 5, 2012 21:21:17 GMT -5
Awhile back Snibull told me check-ins could potentially hurt the pop of a business. I since stopped checking in. I now have over 300 available. I could potentially raise my Game Level a few levels. What say Y'all? Do or don't?
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Post by Amstel Bear Hugs on Jun 5, 2012 22:31:47 GMT -5
Awhile back Snibull told me check-ins could potentially hurt the pop of a business. I since stopped checking in. I now have over 300 available. I could potentially raise my Game Level a few levels. What say Y'all? Do or don't? I would be interested in why that would be? I have not heard that. I would think it would increase the pop. If you use the check-in boost, it cuts the time in half and you could earn more coins faster. BB - talked about check-ins during the NY, NY projects. I would have to go back and check to see what he said. However, I would like to see Snibulls response. |
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Post by Grateful Ed on Jun 5, 2012 22:41:37 GMT -5
I could have totally misread/misunderstood. I do misunderstand quite often!  |
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Post by Snibull on Jun 5, 2012 23:10:12 GMT -5
I did say that about 2 updates ago (it was when grateful was first on the forum). A lot of people were noticing their business pop drops by skin changes or checkins. No biggie, didn't think anything of it. Pops go up and go down for all sorts of reasons we will never know. When a player in NYC asks to be franchised in coins, I do a checkin to "remind" Booyah my location is in NYC. I was PMing Iced Cheese when he pointed out my pop was dropping on a certain high pop business, not a "false" high pop btw. The only thing I could think I was doing was checking in on that business to relocate to NYC. Several times this had happened, so the only link at the time was a check-in. It would recover during the day and then drop at night when I was checking in. I was and still am not concerned with popularity. So doing a checkin to franchise in coins was OK by me. Now, bring this full circle with the updates. I am not a conspiracy theorist, but this is what I think so don't shoot me. I think Booyah fixed the code on the check-in to resolve falsely high pop businesses from being averaged in on the actual population. They pushed 2 checkin contests (on Facebook) to test their code. And it worked. We all (ok, not all bc I didn't) checked-in. In doing this, they also increased the value of the checkin. Before the updates, checkins had so very little value assigned or even a negative impact, as I saw with my business. After the updates, they now add value. I'm actually thinking more than franchising and deleting a business. That's another topic and I have no proof. And I have 756 checkins that will go unused. That is, unless someone wants coins in NYC. ***edited: it's late Snibull 30719277 |
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Post by Grateful Ed on Jun 6, 2012 0:30:48 GMT -5
Snibull. Totally Didn't intend on putting you on the spot. Just like to know the pros vs. cons and ultimately help all of our businesses and players.
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Post by March Vegas on Jun 6, 2012 2:23:35 GMT -5
I found with each check-in, the pop goes up!
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Post by JayeGirl on Jun 6, 2012 4:56:17 GMT -5
I did say that about 2 updates ago (it was when grateful was first on the forum). A lot of people were noticing their business pop drops by skin changes or checkins. No biggie, didn't think anything of it. Pops go up and go down for all sorts of reasons we will never know. When a player in NYC asks to be franchised in coins, I do a checkin to "remind" Booyah my location is in NYC. I was PMing Iced Cheese when he pointed out my pop was dropping on a certain high pop business, not a "false" high pop btw. The only thing I could think I was doing was checking in on that business to relocate to NYC. Several times this had happened, so the only link at the time was a check-in. It would recover during the day and then drop at night when I was checking in. I was and still am not concerned with popularity. So doing a checkin to franchise in coins was OK by me. Now, bring this full circle with the updates. I am not a conspiracy theorist, but this is what I think so don't shoot me. I think Booyah fixed the code on the check-in to resolve falsely high pop businesses from being averaged in on the actual population. They pushed 2 checkin contests (on Facebook) to test their code. And it worked. We all (ok, not all bc I didn't) checked-in. In doing this, they also increased the value of the checkin. Before the updates, checkins had so very little value assigned or even a negative impact, as I saw with my business. After the updates, they now add value. I'm actually thinking more than franchising and deleting a business. That's another topic and I have no proof. And I have 756 checkins that will go unused. That is, unless someone wants coins in NYC. ***edited: it's late Snibull 30719277 I'm truly blonde when it comes to the 'Pop game' so I don't play it. From what I have read no one seems to have a solid real reason as to why all the great businesses have dropped. Even the NY NY game sent it up and then it went back down. Other than I changed location to buy all the top businesses when I joined the forum as that was the thing to do. I just don't get it. I have about 600 check in. Not because I am scared to use them but because I can't be bothered as other than giving gifts I don't really play the game now. Although I did some yesterday just because I was bored. So Snibull you are not using them because you say they do lower your popularity? I have every faith that you are right about what Booyah did with the check ins! Keep an eye on them for us. You can be our Lara Croft to Geordie's James Bond on the forum |
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Post by Snibull on Jun 6, 2012 5:31:20 GMT -5
Gratefuled, I don't feel on the spot and others (I read marchfalls and Jayegirl's response) also have opinions so this is a great thread. Jayegirl-the pop drop was noticed back in early April and it was only on one business but several day in a row. Other mayors had the same experience, see page 4 and the subsequent pages as some people followed up: mytown2.net/index.cgi?board=tips&action=display&thread=226&page=4For me, I only use them to switch to NYC to franchise in coins. I have no goals to level up or to advance my business stats. However, since grateful's original question was regarding leveling up using checkins, I say go for it. Let us know how it goes  Snibull 30719277 |
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Post by Grateful Ed on Jun 6, 2012 8:52:31 GMT -5
Tell ya what I'll do. Later today/tonight, I'll record the pop of all my businesses. Then i'll check-in on every business I have and record the pop afterwards. Then even later, I'll repeat the test. Recording before and after check ins. Let's see what happens! Just as a note to myself, maybe I could later do all my NY businesses one time and my home town stores separately.
Any other things y'all think I should look for, let me know.
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Post by cmeister23 on Jun 6, 2012 9:37:35 GMT -5
I had a high pop NASA from Wonderland that held popularity for over 6 weeks until the update knocked it down. I did lots of check-ins and it never affected the poplularity. The only thing that may be different though is that NASA is in my local area and I checked in with location services on. I never tried to check into a business with locations services off in a different city so maybe that is the difference? At one point I though switching skins knocked things down, but it turns out it was just a coincidence and further testing showed it had no affect on popularity. I like Snibull's theory on the check in contests. I hadn't thought about it, but it makes perfect sense. I thought it was a strange contest to run, but if they were secretly testing things it makes sense. Things did change after that so hmmmm  I really think nobody really understands the "big picture" including Booyah themselves. We are just pawns in their little game. |
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Post by Snibull on Jun 6, 2012 11:04:59 GMT -5
Grateful, I would just look at 1 or 2 or your highest pop businesses and do your checkins and check on them after the server has been updated, just to note any major changes. Like I said, it appeared to be corrected. /// Just a thought. Those who have j/b phones and change the code probably never do checkins (why would they?). Somehow, their data seems unaffected by the regular or major updates. Of course, they can go back in and change them... We'd never know any different Snibull 30719277 |
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Post by shotgunstina on Jun 6, 2012 11:31:59 GMT -5
Just two days ago I checked in to my 2 smallest businesses to raise their population's. I probably did 100 on each of them. Now they are back down to even lower than when I did the check-ins. Whenever I do a checkin (even just one) the population will eventually plummet. Sometimes it will go back up, but never to where I started. I am nervous to do checkins with my high popularity businesses.
I am interested to see what your results are, Ed. I will keep an eye on your response.
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Post by Joe on Jun 6, 2012 13:37:39 GMT -5
From what I can tell, there are two "Popularities": Personal Popularity and Market Popularity.
Market Popularity is global. I have no idea how Booyah calculates it but it appears to be tied somehow to the number of people that have purchased the business, the number of check-ins, and some other magical "stuff".
The Personal Popularity is the popularity in your town. It is based off the Market Popularity but then adjusted further by check-ins and by the number of jobs...or at least it was. Before the patch, Personal Popularity rarely dropped. The only instance where I would see popularity drop dramatically would be in the Check-ins screen...if the business was in the immediate vicinity or you searched for it specifically then the Popularity would reset to Market Popularity.
After the patch, it appears that Personal Popularity resets to the Market Popularity nightly or semi-nightly. I don't think there is a "danger" in using check-ins as was mentioned above.
Warning: the above statements are solely based on personal experience and anecdotal evidence. I can't prove/dis-prove any of it so take it at face value.
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Post by Yarn Goddess on Jun 6, 2012 13:55:31 GMT -5
Personally, I've never noticed checking-in affecting the pop of any of my businesses, but then again, none of mine are what I would consider high-pop. I check in every time my jobs are complete because it raises the pop very slightly each time, sometimes I get a buck, once in a blue moon I get some sort of boost (although they're usually building something in the next 10 minutes, which are totally useless), and they increase the speed of building. Of course, I can only check-in to a small fraction of my businesses, but I've always done it and will continue to do so.
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Post by Raven on Jun 6, 2012 14:08:13 GMT -5
My only experience was when I just did the push for the Godiva chocolate business- I paid attention cuz of trying to get it up to 3000 - I had a lot of check ins saved up and over 5 days probably did more than 100 - it always went up a wee bit with each checkin and has stayed stable - !!!! Touch wood ! Raven 29067906 |
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Post by Grateful Ed on Jun 6, 2012 14:36:17 GMT -5
Let the experiment begin! Does anyone know what time Booyah does their update? I want to check these pops prior to and after, in addition to my check in times.
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Post by Grateful Ed on Jun 6, 2012 14:39:02 GMT -5
Raven. Did you say touch wood or Mis spell Torchwood? That may be the real answer. Torchwood is behind all of this?! No freakin wonder!!
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Post by Raven on Jun 6, 2012 15:49:37 GMT -5
Hahahahah - love it Torchwood it is !!!! Raven 29067906 |
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Post by granny2 on Jun 6, 2012 23:00:04 GMT -5
Hey Son, how's the check in count coming? I'm waiting to see your results. |
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Post by Grateful Ed on Jun 7, 2012 0:13:47 GMT -5
Well, not so good yet. Gonna have to figure out a better system. Lots of factors in and out of game really hurting the test so far. (ie. dinner, house maintenance, kids, 80lb dog, et al)
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I really think nobody really understands the "big picture" including Booyah themselves. We are just pawns in their little game.
