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Post by Solsville on May 23, 2012 14:41:00 GMT -5
Another note: If you franchise, then sell, then franchise again - before the business owner collects the franchise - the owner will receive credit for only one Franchise.
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Post by JayeGirl on May 23, 2012 14:47:27 GMT -5
Hey Sol, I'm not sure that's right. I've tried it a couple of times now and it seems BB got all 5 of his when I did it today, one right after the other when he wasn't there to collect them in between. I'll be doing it again tomorrow and checking to see if it works again. Another note: If you franchise, then sell, then franchise again - before the business owner collects the franchise - the owner will receive credit for only one Franchise.
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Post by Joe on May 23, 2012 15:05:51 GMT -5
Interesting. Thanks for input everyone.
I still have a bunch of dangling "5%s" out there from people who franchised and immediately deleted. Maybe it tracks the business differently once it completes?
On a slightly different note, I knew that I can see who franchised my businesses but can I see who I franchised from? I don't remember where most of my businesses came from and I would like to see it.
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Post by Yarn Goddess on May 23, 2012 15:33:44 GMT -5
Interesting. Thanks for input everyone. I still have a bunch of dangling "5%s" out there from people who franchised and immediately deleted. Maybe it tracks the business differently once it completes? On a slightly different note, I knew that I can see who franchised my businesses but can I see who I franchised from? I don't remember where most of my businesses came from and I would like to see it. No, you can't. It only shows the people who franchised from you. Just something to bear in mind: The RH's cannot keep businesses until they finish building. If they did that, they'd only be able to help a few people every day. They franchise and immediately delete business; that's the only way they're able to get to as many people as possible. If a percentage is lost because of that, it's still worth it - the franchisee still gets their bucks, and that's the bottom line.
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Post by Solsville on May 23, 2012 16:31:08 GMT -5
Hey Sol, I'm not sure that's right. I've tried it a couple of times now and it seems BB got all 5 of his when I did it today, one right after the other when he wasn't there to collect them in between. I'll be doing it again tomorrow and checking to see if it works again. Another note: If you franchise, then sell, then franchise again - before the business owner collects the franchise - the owner will receive credit for only one Franchise. JayeGirl, I think you're right. This one is a little sketchy and doesn't show consistent results. I just tried it again on my "test" town and this time I received 5 different handshakes for the 5 franchise-delete-franchises. I'm also seeing that it does seem to leave behind the last 5% in the stats box too. So, that is a little inconsistent as well.
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Post by JayeGirl on May 23, 2012 16:56:22 GMT -5
It seems it can all be a little hit and miss Sol changing locations to franchise and multiple franchising. I've just moved to France to franchise but when I got there the friend I added isn't in my list and the business I deleted in my town that I was replacing was back again lol. Or.... I'm living in a ghost town and ghosts are moving things... Or it could be the Aliens! Hey Sol, I'm not sure that's right. I've tried it a couple of times now and it seems BB got all 5 of his when I did it today, one right after the other when he wasn't there to collect them in between. I'll be doing it again tomorrow and checking to see if it works again. JayeGirl, I think you're right. This one is a little sketchy and doesn't show consistent results. I just tried it again on my "test" town and this time I received 5 different handshakes for the 5 franchise-delete-franchises. I'm also seeing that it does seem to leave behind the last 5% in the stats box too. So, that is a little inconsistent as well.
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Post by Snibull on May 23, 2012 17:41:19 GMT -5
The franchise list in ur stat page consist of the most recent 5 franchisees. The older ones disappear and the newer one takes its place. It goes away, so I'm not sure if their percentages remains. I don't see a reason why not tho. On a side note: U can visit ur franchisees' towns by simply tapping on their town names in "Your Franchises" list. A lot of people ask who these anonymous RHs are and not being able to find them because they're not listed on the forum. Simply click on their names and u'll be able to visit their towns ;D. Again, it's the most recent five that are listed. Kech, I have 22 franchises showing up under my Plane Image. It was my first "big" purchase so I'm kind of holding onto it (memories... wiping a tear away). I have the first 3 people repeated throughout the entire list but when I click on any of the town names to visit their town, it is a different town all together. Also, if I go out of the stats window and then return to it, it'll show a totally different set of town names (repeated) and the percentages will change. Kind of one of those things I noticed a while ago while trying to return to those towns and gift back. Iced Cheese and I did a few experiments a while back (prob 2 updates ago) and I franchised his quick, upgraded to level 10. It still showed up for him even though I deleted it. He franchised my apple store... and a few days later when he said he was on level 4, it did not show up in my stats anymore! There are a lot of mysteries in this game...
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Post by kechibam on May 23, 2012 18:03:43 GMT -5
The franchise list in ur stat page consist of the most recent 5 franchisees. The older ones disappear and the newer one takes its place. It goes away, so I'm not sure if their percentages remains. I don't see a reason why not tho. On a side note: U can visit ur franchisees' towns by simply tapping on their town names in "Your Franchises" list. A lot of people ask who these anonymous RHs are and not being able to find them because they're not listed on the forum. Simply click on their names and u'll be able to visit their towns ;D. Again, it's the most recent five that are listed. Kech, I have 22 franchises showing up under my Plane Image. It was my first "big" purchase so I'm kind of holding onto it (memories... wiping a tear away). I have the first 3 people repeated throughout the entire list but when I click on any of the town names to visit their town, it is a different town all together. Also, if I go out of the stats window and then return to it, it'll show a totally different set of town names (repeated) and the percentages will change. Kind of one of those things I noticed a while ago while trying to return to those towns and gift back. Iced Cheese and I did a few experiments a while back (prob 2 updates ago) and I franchised his quick, upgraded to level 10. It still showed up for him even though I deleted it. He franchised my apple store... and a few days later when he said he was on level 4, it did not show up in my stats anymore! There are a lot of mysteries in this game... Wow 22? All my businesses show the most recent 5 franchisees so I assumed it was like that for everyone. Apparently that's not the case I too, noticed that clicking on those names don't necessarily bring u to the correct town. I would exit back to my town, go back to the list, and click on the franchisee but the same incorrect town would show up. It's not always like that but it does happen .
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Post by Marville on May 23, 2012 19:45:46 GMT -5
Another note: If you franchise, then sell, then franchise again - before the business owner collects the franchise - the owner will receive credit for only one Franchise. oh my did not know that so I thought I was helping a few people with multiple mini-franchising of one of their high pop businesses but am not from what you say Sol - I assume you are talking about doing this with just one business franchising it deleting it and franchising the same business again right away - not franchising multiple businesses - glad I read this I have only done it a few times to a couple of people I was trying to help out after reading further I am now officially confused about it
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Post by Big Bridge 59 on May 23, 2012 20:44:43 GMT -5
Ok,this is what I. Am doing....... 1-I find a low popular bus. 2-franchise/buy it with a few bucks/coins on rare occasions (usually1-12 bucks I spend) 3-let it build for bt 2-3 min. Then I delete it 4-go look for someone else to help Is this the correct way to help other mayors receive bucks after franchising their towns.......OR NOT? ?? Maybe PM , too if not care, too. I sometimes I forget to check post for days. Any help appreciated BB59
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Post by jonniva on May 23, 2012 21:07:30 GMT -5
I just ran a test: The franchised business receives +5% Bonus Income for each level you upgrade while you STILL OWN the franchised business. It appears that once you delete the franchised business, the franchise and Bonus Income disappear from their stats. I tried this with both Level 1 and Level 4 businesses, and the franchises on both disappeared once the businesses were sold. I know it used to keep the franchise in the stats, but now it looks like one of the updates corrected that. I just checked a half dozen businesses of fairly low pop and high level (meaning there isn't a financial reason to keep them). Three of them were franchised by mayors who no longer have them. One of them was franchised by two different mayors that no longer have them. They all show 5% bonus. I have a half dozen hi pop biz at low or moderate levels that show they were franchised by Jerry and/or barracuda bay and my guess is they were sold before they completed. All those franchises show 5% bonus. Two of those biz were franchised by a different mayor, too. One shows 50% bonus and is at level 10 in their town. The other shows 25% bonus and they have it at level 5. Both of those were also franchised by Jerry and those franchises show 5%. Yet we can be certain those were sold, too. Finally while most of my franchises were bought while I was on the previous version, I am certain that 4 of them (no longer owned by BB) were franchised in the last 24 hours and after I upgraded. What does all that mean? I conclude biz another mayor franchises will persist after the other mayor sells them, will persist over the last update, will persist independently of what else happens with the biz, and persist for at least a week. But this is empirical and the plural of anecdote ain't data. Figuring out the machine is interesting.
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Post by Joe on May 23, 2012 21:10:00 GMT -5
Ok,this is what I. Am doing....... 1-I find a low popular bus. 2-franchise/buy it with a few bucks/coins on rare occasions (usually1-12 bucks I spend) 3-let it build for bt 2-3 min. Then I delete it 4-go look for someone else to help Is this the correct way to help other mayors receive bucks after franchising their towns.......OR NOT? ?? Maybe PM , too if not care, too. I sometimes I forget to check post for days. Any help appreciated BB59 I am sure that is the "right way" way to do it...I was just trying to figure out if there was any value out of the "Instant Build" buff from Errands.
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Post by Joe on May 23, 2012 21:20:42 GMT -5
Figuring out the machine is interesting. ....now if someone can explain to me the formula they use to calculate the pay-out per-job per-minute interval I am pretty sure that is part of the machine no one wants to venture into.
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Post by Snibull on May 23, 2012 21:37:40 GMT -5
Just as a note for the stats and how they don't show up correctly, this is what I had noted for Nintendo World (I no longer own this biz):
At first view: JoshTown2 30% !+forever+!'s town 35% BBF 5% Johnsonville 30% FFA 5% JoshTown2 30% !+forever+!'s town 35% BBF 5%
After clicking and going to each town, now the stats read:
Johnsonville 30% !+forever+!'s town 35% BBF 5% BBF 5% JoshTown2 30% !+forever+!'s town 35% BBF 5% Johnsonville 30%
Clicking on one of the duplicates brought me to these towns: mayday Da Hood Babylon
All these 3 are valid franchisers of this business. I remember those from "coin" franchises prior to the forum.
***All the above was prior to this update... I wish I still had it so I could see what it looks like now. I think the update didn't clean up the stats (as indicated in my earlier post about plane image) but after the update, it looks like if the franchiser sells the business, it is deleted from the stats (if I read Sol's post correctly). I apologize if I misguided someone regarding this in a post-I thought the % increase would stay in the franchised persons stats, just at the same % and never go up. The update changed this then?!
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Post by bleeping slootie on May 25, 2012 7:08:16 GMT -5
I have diligently been reading the threads on franchizing. Am I understanding the concept? Franchize someone's business, build the levels a bit, then sell it (delete it) to earn coin?
If I am in fact understanding this correctly, then something is wrong with my little trailer park.
My top business is a level 8 Apple San Francisco store with a 41k + popularity rating. A 3 minute job earns well over 300 coin. If I sell it, I would earn 281 coins on the sale. I checked a few of my other businesses as well and they all are worth around 281 coins if sold.
How do people earn coin on the sale when I would be losing coin in the long run?
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Post by shotgunstina on May 25, 2012 11:08:12 GMT -5
If you purchase someone else's business, they will get a certain percantage of what you bought it for. Than you can turn around and sell it for a small percentage of what you bought it for. If you choose to keep it, they will earn a certain percentage for each level that you level up to (5% for each level up to level 10), and you will be earning coins all along the way.
When you go to sell it, you will only get the small percentage of the purchase price to do so. That is why you are only seeing the selling price as $281. In my opinion, you should keep your high popularity businessl It would be a shame to sell it for $281.
By the way, if you buy a really low popularity business from someone for say $1, than you turn around and sell it again, you will only get like 250 coins in return. The game will not give you dollars back.
Anyways, a little long winded, but I hope I answered your question.
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Post by Solsville on May 25, 2012 12:33:14 GMT -5
I have diligently been reading the threads on franchizing. Am I understanding the concept? Franchize someone's business, build the levels a bit, then sell it (delete it) to earn coin? If I am in fact understanding this correctly, then something is wrong with my little trailer park. My top business is a level 8 Apple San Francisco store with a 41k + popularity rating. A 3 minute job earns well over 300 coin. If I sell it, I would earn 281 coins on the sale. I checked a few of my other businesses as well and they all are worth around 281 coins if sold. How do people earn coin on the sale when I would be losing coin in the long run? Hi Slootie, I think you have the wrong concept on why people franchise. You're definitely NOT going to make money by franchising and then selling a business. When you sell a business you franchised, you only get roughly 25% of what you paid. The reasons to franchise are to be able to own a high popularity business at a lower cost, or to get it with coins instead of bucks. Also, your job earnings will be more. Here are some numbers: Let's use New York New York Hotel and Casino - around 40,000 popularity and with your location set to Las Vegas. To BUY this business would cost 404 BUCKSJob earnings: 3 min = 69 coins 30 min = 276 coins 2 hour = 644 coins 10 hour = 1380 coins To FRANCHISE it would cost 407,449 COINS (it's a lot easier getting coins than bucks). Job earnings: 3 min = 103 coins 30 min = 414 coins 2 hour = 966 coins 10 hour = 2070 coins As you can see, it costs "less" to franchise vs. buy AND you make more coins per job. Now, when you sell New York New York - you only receive 101,862 coins or 25%. So, you only want to franchise if you plan on keeping the business to make more coins through completing jobs. Or to get high level businesses with coins vs bucks.
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Post by bleeping slootie on May 25, 2012 14:44:43 GMT -5
Now that makes sense, thank you. I did have the wrong understanding of franchizing. And for what it is worth, I did not sell/delete my precious Apple Store. I was just curious to see what it was worth. Thanks again
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Post by Marville on May 25, 2012 15:07:51 GMT -5
ahhh Sol I just love the way you help everyone understand things you are soooo good with the words and the figures! ;D
+1 for that great reply to the question a member had above
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Post by bleeping slootie on May 25, 2012 22:37:19 GMT -5
Berlin, Maryland? Well hello neighbor and fellow Assateague fan.
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